Who will fuck up the settings, control panel, registry, etc. interfaces now? The person who keeps putting Candy Crush on the start menu like it’s their life mission?
an LLM.
Don’t worry sounds like they are setting up sweat shops to keep these people busy.
Don’t worry sounds like they are setting up sweat shops to keep these people busy.
Sounds great!
Yeah, Trump’s making America great by killing white collar industries
True(ish).
and offering factory jobs
Flatly false.
Offering. Not actually delivering. It’s a key attribute of the GOP, make shit up that appeals to the lower educated and fleece the ignorant twats.
But I suppose I need to spell that out to all types.
Haha. Yeah. Stupid Republican voters.
shuffles feet through the tattered remains of all the liberal broken promises
What’s this? Someone said that one was perfect and the other was shit? My gosh!
I agree, let’s say fuck it, throw our hands up and just let what happens happen.
They’re both just as bad as each other.
Or some equal stupid shit.
“In January, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella told analysts that the company would make sales execution changes after the company delivered slower growth than expected in Azure cloud revenue that wasn’t tied to artificial intelligence. Performance in AI cloud growth outdid internal projections.”
Translation: “No one gives a shit about Azure, except for the people we could hoodwink with AI.”
Azure and AWS both have a pretty solid chunk of the data center market.
Like 1/4 and 1/3 respectively.
One objective is to reduce layers of management, the spokesperson said. In January Amazon announced that it was getting rid of some employees after noticing “unnecessary layers” in its organization.
Sucks for those that lost their jobs, but this sounds promising. Layer after layer of management slows everything down. It turns a 1 hour task into a 3 month crawl of endless meetings and back and forth and waiting.
The problem with companies like Microsoft is that they’ve become completely pointless. They don’t innovate anymore. They don’t make anything useful. If you make Microsoft more efficient, they’ll just suck ass more efficiently.
Sorry but this is completely untrue. Microsoft are still a very innovative company.
Weird, it’s been at least a decade since I encountered a Microsoft product that wasn’t actively getting worse.
You must not use many. The many Microsoft programs I use every day have only gotten better over time - windows, SQL management studio, visual studio, visual studio code, windows terminal, WSL, Azure storage explorer, To Do, Office, and even the much maligned Teams has improved significantly.
Microsoft Office is a paradigmatic example of enshittification. But you do you.
How so? I’ve used multiple office products every day at work for the last 20 years and have only noticed them getting better and better. If I could have any version of any of them to use right now it would be the current ones.
Microsoft Word literally removed the ability to autosave. Your document is no longer automatically saved as you type, unless you pay for cloud backup. This would be hilarious if it weren’t so unbelievably dumb.
The tech industry is about to become a total shit show. Mark my words
About to? It’s been brutal for the past 3 years.
Yeah but mainly because of how insanely good it was for the 3 years before that. Covid pumped insane amounts of money into tech, which in turn lead to hiring WAY more people than were actually needed. This is just the correction of that, getting back to sustainable levels.
No, this is a correction after the CEO made very poor investments into an LLM company run by a crypto grifter that’s amounted in little to no ROI. So now it’s either every employee is an AI grifter or unemployed. All other projects are cost recovery to feed the spiral of enshitification.
Are you sure about that?
The stock reflects peoples beliefs, not facts
And if people’s beliefs are that their AI deals are good, prices will go up. That’s ROI baby!
No, that is not ROI, that would be growth above the normal growth for products and services. Problem being that they are just spinning normal growth as AI growth. Internally, they will not be seeing the growth realised. Billions spent and for what? A word predictor that is benchmarked at halucinating 80-90% of the time. Its simply appauling value when the content users get is wrong 80-90% of time, realised or otherwise. Utilization will be starting out high and falling off a cliff risking deepening reputational damage on the back of the thriving open source community.
Absolutely, Natella (intentional) has commented about the valueless hype for one. The stock value has little to do with short term returns especially considering they have more than 1 income stream. I would expect a correction in 12-24months as openai cash starts running dry and it begins reflecting in their stock value first and foremost.
Right now their stock value is pretty much flat. US market instability may put some serious pressure on the US tech stocks in the coming year, those 10 year bonds are not looking good.
AI isn’t just hype though, especially not in ways that Microsoft as a huge service provider can use and provide it.
Yes, it is.
Read the first line of my post above.
Well, shit. Here we go again.
Is there an over/under going on for the rest of the tech sectors 's layoffs this year?
There will definitely be more, especially as the economic situation in the US continues to worsen. Big tech works under the unsustainable model of unlimited growth, and even if profits increase, if they don’t increase “enough” they lay off workers. They could save a ton of money by laying off execs, but they’ll never do that.
I’ve found layoffs.fyi to be pretty up to date with tracking how many people are laid off in the tech sector. It’s no wonder that it’s nearly impossible to find a job in tech, and these execs and boards are to blame.
I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t considered a career change, not because of the work itself but because I’m exhausted from worrying about if I’ll have a job to pay the bills tomorrow. The only thing stopping me is that I have no idea what I’d do otherwise.
I have a question. Everyone keeps speaking of the “tech” sector. Does that only refer to IT or does it cover engineers as well? Because in Europe it seems they keep struggling to get enough people with IT knowledge into engineering projects.
It’s because the ~*~tech~*~ sector fundamentally relies on different economics than most engineering companies, and that has investors absolutely bricked up.
What investors being sold by “tech” companies is infinite ROI. Sure, [YouTube/Twitter/Uber/whoever] has never been profitable more than a few quarters in a row (if that), but think! They have virtually no fixed costs! That means if we just inject a few more millions in R&D we will finally reach the threshold where we can scale deployments to hundreds of millions of users who will be paying us MRR! Hosting costs are virtually nothing and at that scale R&D is basically free as well! And if push comes to shove, we can reduce costs to nearly zero by firing all the engineers! The economies of scale are practically infinite, they say.
It’s the rare instance where capitalists actually care about long-terms gain a bit too much. The tech industry tends to be single-mindedly chasing monthly user counts first and revenue second or third. Then at some point reality catches up, the accountants start getting their way, the product starts getting enshittified, and the users leave for something else. Did the product actually turn a net profit over its lifetime? Who knows, who cares. Everyone who made those early business decisions has long since cashed out.
Where the markets are unbelievably irrational is that this frenzy has spilled over into industries where the the sales pitch for infinite economies of scale doesn’t even make theoretical sense. Tesla sells physical products, so why are they worth more than every other automotive company combined? OpenAI operates at an enormous loss because LLMs are just expensive to train and run by nature, so they cannot be profitable under the current business model at any scale. Yet here we are. Just because it’s labeled as “tech”, investors are throwing our retirement funds into it. And any time the markets are being irrational, there’s a risk that investors wise up to the bad fundamentals and the whole thing comes crashing down.
In Europe we’ve been spared some of the worst of the craziness. Although venture capitalism is alive and well in the software sector, I would wager that European companies tend to have stronger fundamentals on average (but that’s just a gut feeling, I’m not an economist).
I work in games. Its fucking incredible looking at my linkedin. I would say about 80% of my coworkers throughout my career are out of work right now. I started my own company because I was sick of it.
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Its a 2 person game studio with my buddy. you would have never heard of it because we haven’t announced anything. We only started work a few months ago after a whole bunch of planning.
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thanks!🤞
Nice try fbi
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Is it a cooperative one? Or are you on the road to becoming the next shitty owner?
look at my user name.
I once joined a company because literally everyone in the company had the same salary. i took a 30k loss of salary to join that project. I believed in the company though and its founders. it turned out to be the best place i ever worked.
Great! 🙂
I started my own company because I was sick of it.
I’m genuinely curious to hear how you’ve found it easier to land clients than employers. In my experience, you really need a good in with a bigger firm if you’re going to have any hope of launching a business. Unless your old employer is jettisoning their contracts as quickly as they jettison their staff, that can be tricky.
i’m not trying to land clients.
Traditionally, a business without clients is called a hobby.
this is where i block you because you’re annoying.
There has never been a better time to switch to Mint, Pop_OS, or Bazzite.
I am sure the people who just lost their job will be super happy about that.
This place is constantly shilling Linux, decrying LLMs, and downvoting anything that doesn’t fit the status quo.
Don’t get me wrong I like this place on the whole, but I’ve just come to realise nobody here actually wants to engage with anybody different and just dog piles.
We are the left wing version of r/conservative.
Don’t get me wrong I like this place on the whole, but I’ve just come to realise nobody here actually wants to engage with anybody different and just dog piles.
We are the left wing version of r/conservative.
So brave of you to stand up to left wing people dismantling your arguments!
…but yes people aren’t interested in your desire to “both sides” reality by dropping out necessary context until the picture looks like two sides having a friendly disagreement… because the reality is conservatives WANT to hurt us and for some reason people are mad about that here.
Of course we need three flavor so we don’t have a single majority and each of them have their own nuisance. Same as JavaScript libraries.
Cool. I mean I haven’t been able to get past a single 10-minute “I just want to go over the job with you and collect some basic information” phone interview in 6-months.
But ya know. Another 6,000 people on the market is cool too.
I keep hoping this will spark some sort of anti-capitalist zeitgeist. But labor might be too scattered and individualistic.
Like, why are we all scrambling for a handful of jobs when the rich have so many resources?
I mean, what would that even look like? New “software communes” getting founded? I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I’m curious what that would actually look like on the ground.
At the very least form unions. That will help with stuff like wage theft, some people getting underpaid, BS firings, etc.
More aggressively, maybe some sort of collective ownership. Not this “options” bullshit where they never even vest for most people. The whole thing where management pays you $100 and sells what you made for $3000 needs to go. That $3000 needs to be more fairly shared among the people that made it happen.
But I don’t really know. I’m just some guy with entry level knowledge and a sense that the current system is wrong.
Because have fun doing anything about it while scrambling to survive
Oh fuck off with this ‘survive’ nonsense.
Literally every bitch I know in America complaining about “not having enough money” spends it like a goddamn idiot.
Doordash every day. Subscriptions out the wah-zoo for things they can be getting for free.
You’d better believe most of them are going to be buying a switch 2 instead of emulating.
Oh, and the thought of moving somewhere cheaper? Forget about it. It’s “not good enough” for them.
No, they get no sympathy from me. They all deserve what’s coming to them and I hope it hits hard.
It kinda sounds like you’re shaming people simply for spending their money on entertainment, food or better living conditions. That kind of take can come off like saying, “you’re poor, so you don’t deserve to enjoy anything.”
I get that there are alternatives like pirating, but that doesn’t really solve the bigger issue: we shouldn’t have to resort to that in the first place.
I’ll shame someone for using door dash. No able bodied person deserves servants to both cook for them and deliver hot food to them from across town. That is an incredible privilege that should be reserved for those truly in need or as an expense luxury.
No, it’s not “all or nothing.” You people keep pretending that’s what I’m arguing for because you don’t want to acknowledge your own contribution to the problem. The person I was replying was trying to argue ‘survival,’ and now here you are moving the goalposts to ‘wants.’
They keep conflating needs with wants, so whoever takes their wants away is immediately a bad person.
They don’t need more money. As soon as they get more, they’re going to spend more on more dumb shit while there are still starving children on the planet.
but that doesn’t really solve the bigger issue
It does if enough people do it.
we shouldn’t have to resort to that in the first place.
Correct, but we don’t live in a perfect world.
You make some good points and I see where you’re coming from, but I think that person used the term “survive” figuratively. Even so, when you say the world is not perfect you’re kind of oversimplifying the situation by making it seem like things are the way they are because of some unfortunate event no one can control, when in reality things are designed to be harder for people with less money, and I’ll try to use your own examples to show that.
Streaming: Remember when we only had Netflix and it had a full extensive catalog, no ads and was much more affordable? Then studios started splitting content just to make more profit, and now every year we pay more to get less content. Even basic plans with ads are going up. You mentioned pirating, but that’s not exactly easy or accessible for everyone, not to mention it’s a legal gray area (which is another discussion on its own).
Delivery: Sure, no one needs to order takeout, but even cooking at home is getting expensive, especially if you want to eat healthy. If you’re trying to save money you basically have to buy stuff loaded with sugar and fat or use shit ingredients, it’s like they’re trying to slowly kill us.
Living: let’s not pretend there’s not a housing crisis going on for a while, where people with money are buying up everything just to rent it back out to other people with money. Meanwhile everyone else is getting pushed to unsafe areas with poor living conditions.
(Also, just saying, that whole “fuck you” attitude of yours doesn’t really help with anything.)
Streaming: Remember when we only had Netflix and it had a full extensive catalog, no ads and was much more affordable?
Yes, but even then I never subscribed to netflix because free streaming sites had more content for free. They still do. You really have no idea how disconnected you are from people who legitimately need more money and scrutinize everything they spend it on. It’s called privilege.
Delivery: Sure, no one needs to order takeout, but even cooking at home is getting expensive
Wait… what? You’re saying it’s getting expensive to cook at home, so the solution is to spend more money on delivery? Is this satire?
If you’re trying to save money you basically have to buy stuff loaded with sugar and fat or use shit ingredients
What the fuck? Are you seriously suggesting that it’s better to get doordash because eating at home is “too expensive and unhealthy”?
Living: let’s not pretend there’s not a housing crisis going on for a while
That’s because people have been conditioned to rent instead of own. Most of the people complaining about housing are living above their means and think they deserve more before people who have less. For example, I guarantee most of the people on these forums complains about not having enough money while spending $1,000+/month on rent in a major city.
They could live more modest lives in more rural areas, but “that’s not good enough for them.” Saying “there are no jobs” is a load of bullshit and I guarantee none of them are talking from experience.
(Also, just saying, that whole “fuck you” attitude of yours doesn’t really help with anything.)
I’m holding people accountable for their contributions to the problem. They want to consume guilt-free and get mad at anyone who calls it out.
I don’t expect them to change no matter what. It would take an act of god to beat the consumerism out of this generation.
Can’t wait for windows updates to get even buggier ! Seriously though I’m building an all amd gaming rig in november and never using windows again.
How is gaming on linux? I really don’t want to “upgrade” to windows 11 but I also barely have any time to game in the first place let alone fool around with settings and drivers for several hours every time I install a new game or update and existing one.
Thanks to Valve, Linux compatibility has become industry standard.
I mean if I laid off %25 of my dev team we would see a boat in productivity. They leech time from one of my senior devs and don’t get any better. Def getting rid of 2/4 useless guys and giving 1 of them as much of an opportunity I’ve given any body and one is going to be next to go of he doesn’t shape up.
Attitude like that You sound like you would be a horrible manager. No wonder they don’t have the motivation or support to perform better
I’m really laid back and have given them a long time to learn our code base and how to contribute. When I have to pull multiple all nighters and the end of a long release cycle to fix or finish what they worked on it’s not worth it. I basically can only code at night because I spend my day in meetings, planning or next release or helping people with their stuff.
We work remote so either they are really dumb and won’t ever get it or they slack off all the time and wait till the last min to slap shit together and it isn’t right.
Real life doesn’t work like that
They are literally useless. even when something is explained to them they still mess it up, or need the same thing explained again the next time. Most of the commits they have was someone wasting their time to explain change by change how to do it. It would have been worth the time investment if they learned and were able to do things on their own. at this point but they aren’t and freeing up the people who have to consistently spend their time helping them will be a net positive in productivity.
And the good ones run away as fast as they can. Good luck with it!
I have a bunch of good developers, and my best guys have been around for years. I have newer people that have been on the project that have been around for the same amount of time as the problem people who get their work done and learn and get better consistently.
