I never thought I’d be this upset to a point I’d be writing an article about something this sensitive with a clickbait-y title. It’s simultaneously demotivating, unproductive, and infuriating. I’m here writing this post fully knowing that I could have been working on accessibility in GNOME, but really, I’m so tired of having my mood ruined because of privileged people spending at most 5 minutes to write erroneous posts and then pretending to be oblivious when confronted while it takes us 5 months of unpaid work to get a quarter of recognition, let alone acknowledgment, without accounting for the time “wasted” addressing these accusations.

I beg you, please keep writing banger posts like fireborn’s I Want to Love Linux. It Doesn’t Love Me Back series and their interluding post. We need more people with disabilities to keep reminding developers that you exist and your conditions and disabilities are a spectrum and not absolute.

TheEvilSkeleton is a pretty big GNOME developer whom I’m pretty sure I’ve bumped into before.

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    The measurement of success isn’t the hours put into it. I will continue to bash Gnome because no matter how much hours the devs put and no matter how much they believe they know better, their products sucks all kinds of balls, and that kind of it. I don’t have any underlying agenda or double meaning behind it. The product is shit. You made a lot of effort and put a lot of labour in it. This, unfortunately, means you put a lot of labour into shit.

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      Congrats, you know how to dislike something and blame others for your dislike! You’re on your way to True Narcissism! 💫

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        Remember kids, if someone doesn’t like the shit you like, it’s actually because they’re narcissistic actually.

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          it’s not the dislike, it’s that you frame it as though your distaste were the truth, as opposed to framing it as an opinion.

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      Do you have to dunk on something just because it’s decidedly not for you? There are, in fact, many avid GNOME users who’ve tried Plasma or other DEs, including Linus Torvalds.

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        Everyone entitled to their opinion and their taste, and usually I am not this adamant about my personal preferences. I am just agitated by that notion some people for some reason have, that you’re not allowed to criticize stuff if it’s free and people totally work hard on it you guys. Pouring river water into your socks is free and requires effort, it doesn’t make it good or immune to criticism.

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          You’re not criticizing. You’re saying “no matter how much people try to improve this, this will always be objectively worthless, because this is objectively worthless”. Nobody said you’re not allowed to criticize GNOME. Criticism includes specific directions to improve on and does not involve neglecting the size of the userbase to claim your personal preferences extend to objective truth.

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            That’s not what I’m saying, not at all, it’s sad you read it this way.
            I’m saying that GNOME sucks balls right now, and the nobody can’t just say “but the developers are working really hard”, or “a bunch of people actually use it” and make it all suddenly go away. I’m not going to repeat all the specific points on why exactly it sucks, it’s not what the discussion is about, it’s not what my comment is about, and it’s not the what only available criticism is.

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              nobody can’t just say “but the developers are working really hard”, or “a bunch of people actually use it” and make it all suddenly go away

              That’s not what anyone’s saying either. AHemlocksLie said the article—instead of saying “we know better what the users want”—expresses frustration at caring and working a ton at (blind) accessibility only for people to say GNOME devs don’t care about (blind) accessibility; nowhere did they say that makes GNOME accessibility good. In the context of us understanding what AHemlocksLie said, I think it’s not aberating that we interpreted your reply the way we did.

              squaresinger said what you think you said in their last reply. Look at the positive response to them.