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  • I do see what your saying, it is just the books have a secunit clearly not looking like any gender. They have skimmed over Muderbot’s disgust of gender and sex, but in the books it is constant theme. It’s visceral.

    To have them be genderless is only half way, as secunits, in the books, also look genderless (and not human).

    Skarsgård, for a dude, is doing as good a job as he can. Not many known actors could visually do what I’d have preferred, and also can do a ungendered voice. (Any?). I know it’s easier to do it books and realistically they needed a well known actor to pull people to the show.

    It’s just…just… That’s not my Murderbot!


  • It’s an interesting point, and I agree with it politically, but in the books it’s made clear secunits look androgynous and non-human.

    Some change between media change is always going to happen. I think Skarsgård is doing as good a job as can be done with his face. I’m making peace with it. Maybe the bigger problem is the dismissiveness of the portrayal of Preservation Alliance society. But we did live in the Corporate Rim!


  • Not quite as I saw them, but I certainly saw it clearly not human. A composite of plastic, metal and flesh. Comfortable with the label it.

    Though the counter to that, I’m sure the books mentions sexbots basically being the same platform as secunits, only with a gender and without built in weapons. With a combatunit being the same again, but with even more weapons (including cyber). Which does say maybe Martha Wells had the platform, without armour, as maybe more fleshly than we are thinking.

    The TV series is good, but it’s not as I saw in my head. Other than “Sanctuary Moon”, which nails it.

    I am surprised there hasn’t been real unset by fans by giving Murderbot gender. They could have at least picked someone who didn’t look binary. But Skarsgård has got the right character if not the right face.



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    They could of at least removed his hair and put some clear cybernetics. In the books, you couldn’t mistake Murderbot for a human. Even after ART’s modifications (adding hair etc) Murderbot still could only pass as a heavily cybernetically augmented human.

    I do fear the shied away from the gender stuff.










  • Suits aren’t evil. I mean I’m they aren’t good either, but all they care about is money. They push for closed because that is where the money is, but they have no resolve on anything. Law makers either try and follow experts or money.

    To the extent either believe anything, they believe the IP lie and thus don’t see the tragedy of the commons they advocate.

    Open however has passion, and is technically correct. (The best kind of correct.)

    Little by little, we’ll keep winning out. Right to repair is an important front, but so is digital rights, privacy and competition.