Well, you do need to be specific because like 99% of headphones terminate in a 3.5mm jack or a quarter inch jack. You were referring to a vert very limited subset of headphones.

It’s honestly kinda dumb to buy a headphone, which only needs an analogue voltage signal to work, that terminates in usb-c. Specially considering that there are still loads of devices that don’t have that port. Even if a computer has it, it’s likely that it only has 1 or 2 of them which might already be in use. For example, my work laptop has 2 usb-c and I’m using one of them to charge it and the other to connect a monitor.

Now the phone standard is IP68. There were no IP68 compliant headphone jacks until recently, I think the ASUS Zenfone 12 is the first one.

The phone I’m literally holding right now (Xperia 5V) is IP68 compliant and has a jack…

it went away, and phones still sold like hotcakes

Well yeah, you basically need smartphones, it’s not very optional. What’s your point?

While those with headphone jacks aren’t being bought anywhere near the same volume. So the signal is very clear

There are very little options with headphone jacks so yeah, your math is on point. Lol. How can a product that doesn’t exist sale in high volumes?

It is a feature that doesn’t drive sales. Period.

Correlation is not causation.

Give me a break.

Well, technically no phones are made in the US. I think you’re talking about selling phones there. Regardless, you might have poor short term memory because they only pulled out of the US phone market (which is pretty crappy) a little over a year ago I believe.

You know you’ve got not argument when you have to compare a $700 dollar phone to a $5 dongle for your argument to even make sense.

Oh, so I should buy $100 dongles then? lol Everyone’s argument about the dongles is that they’re super cheap, that’s why I made the comparison.

In those phones the DAC is used primarily for phone calls.

Oh really? And how exactly do you think that the phone is generating the audio that comes through its speaker when you’re doing anything else? Like listening to music, videos, etc? Does your phone really not make a single sound apart from the audio in phone calls?

I wasn’t talking about some cheap $5 dongle, I specifically said quality headphones

headphone =/= dongle

The dongle is what you connect TO the headphone. Regardless, be more specific then. What’s the one you recommend? Should I buy $50 dongles then and keep them attached to my headphones? Since I use 4/5 of them does that mean that it’s ok in your opinion that I now need to spend $250 in dongles instead of just having a tiny, cheap, reliable jack on my $700 phone?

But they won’t sacrifice AxB customers to satisfy B customers.

That’s the kicker. Adding a headphone jack doesn’t mean they have to sacrifice something. They can just do it without having to remove/reduce anything. If adding a jack was really that difficult, something like what you can see in this video wouldn’t be possible.

You have to preeeety gullible to believe their reasons for not adding it. The only reason was that they wanted to sell their bluetooth earbuds, that’s it.

They’ve always made phones…

Sony Xperia 5V

I use them and that’s more than reason enough to want a reliable, small, cheap, jack that literally has no downsides and lets me use my devices how I want to use them.

Damn right. LG G5 for example was a pretty interesting concept that could’ve evolved into something cool.

Why should they care?

Because they should want to capture more customers? Is that really your question?

The point is, the people who did buy it didn’t care

Yeah and how many were those?

You clearly didn’t get the point. The cost isn’t the only issue. There are downsides to wireless earbuds and I honestly do not prefer them most of the time. In my example, I’m using them the entire time because I don’t want to hear airplane noises and yeah, I am playing something on them most of the time if I’m flying alone.

Also if you’re dropping 10 hour flight money…

Sorry but this is a very very dumb take. “if you spent a lot of money, you could spend MORE money”. Really dude? The solution is just having a damn headphone jack, not spending money because corporations want you to.

Let me give you simple example. When I take a flight, I like to watch my own media. Those flights sometimes are upwards of 10 hours. If I use wireless earbuds, both the earbuds and my phone will run out of battery and I have to charge them separately. However, since I have a phone with a headphone jack, my earbuds never run out of battery, I can charge my phone while I’m using them and I don’t need to use a single adapter.

Oh yeah, and the audio quality is also better.

You know why there aren’t more users complaining about this? Because they flat out did not buy the device for that reason (e.g. me). Removing the jack is also extremely hyprocritical coming from a “sustainable” company.

You are completely and utterly wrong. I’m pretty sure that a $700 phone’s dac is better than what you can find on a $5 dongle from god knows where. Also, by design there should be no “noise” or “interference” causing issues with the internal dac. If there is, you bought an extremely shitty device.

It absolutely does not. That’s just the stupid propaganda companies distribute to make people buy wireless earbuds.

Not really, no. There are even people that have been able to ADD a headphone jack to iphones that don’t have one.

Technically it only goes through 1 dac, not “another one”. But still, yeah, your phone’s dac is most likely a lot better than the one on a $10 adapter. However, the usb-c spec does allow an analog audio signal passthrough. Whether that’s available or not depends on the phone I guess.

Awesome solution. Remove the port that everything used to have and make consumers buy adapters. I have like 5 headphones. Should I go buy an adapter for each one? Not to mention that I can easily fix a headphone cable but if a 3.5 to usb-c adapter breaks, it basically becomes junk.

There are tons and tons of websites where you can create an account with just your email. I wouldn’t expect a third party account to be mandatory. Specially from a product like this one.