• thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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    29 days ago

    this reminds me of the advice for people who win the lottery

    make an anonymous LLC company to accept your win, so you can stay incognito

    pay a lawyer and an accountant so you can continue to stay incognito and only tell your trusted friends and family about your good fortune

    so crazy assholes don’t come for you or them

    I guess this now applies to making it big in crypto money

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      29 days ago

      That some messed up US thing i never understood. Here in germany you are anonymous by default when you win. at most it is published from what state the winner was.

      That someone’s name and even address is published is so completely unimaginably absurd to me. makes no sense whatsoever.

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        29 days ago

        There’s actually extremely strong logic behind publishing the winner. It’s a whole hell of a lot harder to rig when your name is everywhere when you win.

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          It’s a whole hell of a lot harder to rig when your name is everywhere when you win.

          This also sounds like a uniquely US problem. Not that there aren’t scammers everywhere, but it feels like it would be more prevalent in the US.

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            29 days ago

            … That’s an absolute wild and hella nationalistic take. There’s nothing even slightly uniquely Americans about embezzlement and theft-- Europe has been doing that for thousands of years before America even existed

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              29 days ago

              I did acknowledge that it’s not exclusive to the US. And I didn’t say “it is”, I said “it feels like”.

              FTX, Theranos, Fyre Festival, Enron, Bernie Madoff, Logan Paul’s CrytoZoo, Charles Ponzi (the OG Ponzi scammer), etc.

              While scams exist everywhere, the US seems specially suited to embolden people to run scams. At least high profile ones.

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    29 days ago

    As much as I dislike crypto, this is not a crypto fail story, even though the article paints it like that a few times (or at least the tone implies).

    No one should have their finger servered because of other people’s greediness.

    These are the occasions I wish death penalty was a thing, especially for those cases where the idiots have been caught in the act - there are better things to do with my tax money than making sure they have a place to live in and some nice good meals to go with it.

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      29 days ago

      While I do recognise the colloquial and unserious tone of your argument, I have to disagree wholeheartedly: Human right are universal.

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        I mean, it’s hard. I’m not really against death penalty on its own, I think there are crimes which deserve exactly that. My issue with death penalty is how easy it is to misuse. So in a theoretical world where some perfect entity with no ability to make mistakes decides who gets it, I’m 100% in favour. In the real world, not so much.

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          29 days ago

          As long as we have the option to separate and isolate, nobody deserves to be killed. The death penalty is nothing more than formalised murder, however one chooses to look at it.

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              29 days ago

              That’s a very American context where prisons are for-profit companies (wtf USA?), that’s why everything is so expensive. In a normal country death sentence wouldn’t cost nearly as much.

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            29 days ago

            Sure, you can call it that and yeah, it might make some people think more before being in favour of it just because it doesn’t sound as bad.

            But I disagree with the first part, plenty deserve to be killed, always had and always will.

            In theory death penalty is exactly that - people justly decide that someone harms society too much and they don’t want that person in society.

            (again, note that I don’t think it should be implemented in real world because of how easily corruptible people are)

            • latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              No. Murder is murder. There is no rationalising one’s way around it. There is no acceptable context for killing someone other than immediate self-defence, which is not the case when discussing things in terms of justice systems.

              Killing is never justice.

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                It’s interesting that the kind of criminality, exploitation and abuse committed by the wealthy and powerful can seldom be countered by “immediate self-defense” and yet we are just as fucked as we would be when robbed at gunpoint. Worse, in some cases.

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                There is no acceptable context for killing someone other than immediate self-defence

                But you know he’s gonna kill a hundred people next week. Starve ten thousands people to death over the next six months. Start world war 3, and cause the death of millions of people. Those people people have no recourse to self defence, but you could defend them, right now.

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      29 days ago

      These are the occasions I wish death penalty was a thing, especially for those cases where the idiots have been caught in the act - there are better things to do with my tax money than making sure they have a place to live in and some nice good meals to go with it.

      I do understand how you feel about that and I do kinda feel the same, BUT … you always have to assure that every last person has rights and gets acceptable treatment, even the ones who seemingly have no soul. Because if there’s ever a category of people without rights, any government would have an easy way to get rid of eveyone critizing them.

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        29 days ago

        There’s this one Nazi CEO that I hope we can agree either has no soul or at least one that we could do without. Yet we’re not killing him.

        Killing people is wrong and while there may be factors that make it seem more warranted, nothing will ever make it right.

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          29 days ago

          nothing will ever make it right.

          Strongly disagree. If someone had killed Musk a year ago, the world would be a different place today. A better place, I think.

          If someone had killed Trump ten years ago, how many COVID deaths would be avoided? How much damage to our economy would not have happened? How many hungry people across the world would still have food from a USAID shipment?

          There are plenty of times it would be right to kill people. But who can we trust to make that decision? I’m confident I’m right, but I would not want to have to do it.

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        29 days ago

        Thats bullshit. Not all people deserve to be treated as people. Some are just garbage. That includes serial killers and ones mentioned in this article

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          And then you critize the government, get a sham trial and are marked for your crime as some kind of “garbage person” without rights. Afterwards, execution or locking away and maybe throw in some torture for the fun of it. This is reality already. It just hasn’t been done to you.

          You can feel about it however you want, I may even feel the same with some people, but as an adult, we have to use logic.

          The point is, there must never be an official group of people without rights you can just “get rid of” im some way. This limit is not for the punished, it exists to shield the innocent.