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I’m done with Google! Watch me rant on Google’s Youtube! Earns me money!
So… yeah.
Why are we giving neonazis attention, again?
No, stop, come back…
- Google, 2025
I think it’s ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.
Ditch Google
Step 1: Send them money
Used phones: exist
Users who constantly repost this same comment: “doesn’t look like anything to me.”
Used pixel actually limit a lot the choice. I’ve not dived into de-googled phone yet but from what I understood postmarketOS seems like the used/old phone OS
Writing this from a degoogled Pixel 4a bought second hand for 80 bucks a couple years ago. Great camera, enough storage, fingerprint sensor, headphone jack, fits in hand and pocket. This thing is close to perfect, new phones are scam.
Where did you get it?
Not OP, but Swappa.com is an excellent website for buying used tech at a good price.
Kleinanzeigen (Germany)
Doesnt calyxos also work on fairphone
“work” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here when talking about a Fairphone. Worst phone I ever owned with quite some margin.
That isn’t really true especially with Calyx OS
LineageOS works on a bunch of non google phones
I’m running lineage os on a Motorola moto g7 power (2019) Android 15 runs fine on a 6 year old phone.
Thise are just different flavors. I need a pixel 8 pro xl equivalent device that runs linux natively. All thw postmarket phones are ancientx
Same reason it continually sucks to get a working Linux build on an apple laptop or desktop.
As bad as Google is, they’re lightyears ahead of Apple in terms of protecting their products in a walled garden.
Really? What’s your favorite custom ROM for modern iPhones?
I’ve never investigated for iPhones but would be curious
- if they exist
- how bloody hard they are to get going
I can only speak for laptops/desktops and it being a bitch.
There’s a reason I’m very adamant at hating Apple for a multitude of technical reasons. This is but one of them. It’s a shame too because their build quality is really S-Tier.
I would get a Nokia flip phone but they cost a bit. Cheaper to get something someone is throwing out
Er. ‘I am done with Google’. Watch the video on YouTube…
I like how Lemmy somehow still finds negativity here. Never change lmao.
An internet celebrity in the millions of followers is going FOSS. Cheer up. On the downstream, this may bring Lemmy more users and put more visibility on open software.
“I’m done with capitalism” he writes on a phone paid for with 😧 MONEY 👻
Hey, it could be stolen.
and trying to get on the grift train of hating google. seems like hes some what desperate to comeback to yt, trying to recapture old glory days, of course all that sweet money comes with it.
What exactly is the grift of suggesting Foss over Google? You think he’s getting kickbacks? And if you just mean the “grift” of getting paid for YouTube videos… I mean, if people are watching it and it’s good information is that really a “grift”, seems like just getting paid for giving good information. Better than the majority of YouTube.
I mean where else is he going to reach the most YouTube/Google users?
For Pewdiepie this makes a lot of sense, he was literally the top youtuber. But uploading also somewhere else (no exclusivity required) needs to become mainstream yesterday. We have technical colleges far from the US posting educational video content for a website embed on youtube only, it’s madness 😅
Where would be a general purpose place to use as the second platform? Something that’s easy to use (and ofc not even more immoral than youtube, so not rumble or things like that).
A lot of the better creators are on Nebula. I don’t think they’d take Pewds though.
Nebula is like netflix, not youtube
Fair enough, but I was saying in the “this should become common practice” sense. I don’t think anyone can just post there since it’s owned by the creators, so you have to join them, it’s a package deal.
Peertube would be my choice, thanks to p2p one won’t burden an instance if a video gets too popular. Just found a nice interface to find a good instance as a videomaker depending on topic, requirements, etc: https://joinpeertube.org/instances?profile=video-maker
As with the rest of the fediverse, autonomous institutions like universities should ideally have their own instance or join a collective. Embeds get the same p2p benefits and they seem super easy to implement
I always thought it was a federated kind of platform. Not really p2p. Why do you need an instance if its p2p?
It’s p2p between the watchers, but files are hosted on a server (an instance of Peertube). With just one person watching a video there’s no p2p, only server-client.
Exactly!
TLDR?
Generic degoogling/google alternatives video from Pewdiepie, but he won’t get rid of Youtube.
I don’t think there is much in the way of alternatives. Scaling to millions of users is very hard.
There are a few platforms. Nebula, Floatplane, Peertube. I think Patreon allows you to host videos directly on their platform too.
But none of these platforms offer free access plus a built-in ad function.
I don’t think those are quite at the scale YouTube is. Video content for millions of uses is very hard and expensive.
I’m pretty sure both Nebula and Floatplane look for their talents themselves, you can’t just decide to be there. And they look for something more sophisticated than a guy yelling n-word at children in a currently popular videogame.
Yeah, might be.
Dailymotion should be a non-issue to get into though. It’s got free user access, it’s the 9th biggest content site by active users worldwide and I don’t think they have selective creator recruiting practices.
Many alternatives but most in china. Bilibili for example: https://www.bilibili.tv/en/video/4795901623145984?bstar_from=bstar-web.homepage.recommend.all.
Only if you are in China
The rest of the world isn’t authoritarian quite yet
Bilibili is already trying to open across Asia without any success. They’re now changing their strategy to be Crunchyroll of Asia (mostly licensing anime from Muse Asia, Ani-One, and other company), but also allow people to host stuff (most people are either ACG content or pirated movie).
he misses the day where he was top youtuber shilling for google, and all that sweet money, thats why hes trying to low key come back, need more money and glory from his old days, after hiding in japan.
Ty
Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.
I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.
There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Pobodies nerfect…
Your own domain for email hosting is a massive pain in the ass. Have you not run into a million problems with other hosting providers refusing you for possibly spam?
Self hosting an email server is a pain in the ass and I don’t really recommend it.
Buying your own domain and using it in whatever email provider you want is very easy and gives you ownership over the email address. You may switch providers freely without needing anyone else to do anything.
I wasn’t self hosting. I was just talking about your own domain, which caused me serious problems when flagged for spam.
Edit: I’m guessing it’s easier nowadays but I still carry that pain lol
That’s not an issue with a custom domain name, but one of the other parts you run into, SPF and DKIM dns settings being correct and the reputation of whatever SMTP server’s ip address is. No one spam-bins based just on random domain names, or every business would freak out. You can also use your own domain on Google, Microsoft, or Apples ecosystems, not that you need to, there are plenty of providers that will host your email. I like runbox.
Oh shit is that what the issue was??? Thank you for explaining! I thought it was literally blacklisted like that. I told those worthless dumbfucks to whitelist my domain and that shit just kept happening—and they made me do all the work every time. It was exhausting and frustrating. I’ll look into runbox, thanks again.
I wonder if there might be some super common spam tlds like .xyz or .ru or something, but generally, yeah, custom domain isn’t the issue. Some other options are Migadu, mailbox.org, mxroute, and Tuta all seem like decent companies. A lot of others “also do” email hosting, like porkbun and OVH. Plenty of companies host their email with all these companies and have mostly clear sailing without being spam binned.
No, not I don’t self host my email which is where a lot of the trouble comes from
I don’t remember having any issues with it ever. That was a concern so I did slowly transition to the custom domain
I stopped doing it because I kept getting rejections from Microsoft from my property manager and some other important stuff. Drove me nuts.
Didn’t try to host a domain myself yet, but having it set up with Proton has given me zero problems thus far.
Despite the lack of content we should mention peertube any time possible to increase knowledge of it, if nothing else
Your own domain, but you’re safer not hosting your own email servers in general. Just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this. If your mail server is down you don’t get mail 🫠
I ended up using a service that isn’t Google for that with my own domain
And soft lock yourself… log in to the DNS portal you need 2FA from your email… while your email is having DNS issues lol
Nebula is an option for some content creators but it is subscription based.
Wish more creators would move to Nebula. I joined on Grady from Practical Engineering’s recommendation. His stuff is great.
I haven’t quite figured out how to use PeerTube yet.
set up your own domain for email hosting
cannot recommend this enough!
- register your domain through something like porkbun
- get an account with someone like mxroute.com (i am a fan, but not an affiliate or anything)
- enjoy pain-free email for the rest of your life
My own domain?!? Any suggestions??
Furrysmurfporn.ai is available
Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.
Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.
Gotta also recommended porkbun for a registrar, had a great experience with then.
Porkbun + runbox here. Domain and email together cost less than $30 a year. You can use the domain for free with GitHub pages or cloudflare for a free website too.
I personally picked Mailfence, but I saw both runbox and mailfence are really good. Tho Mailfence is a bit more expensive
That’s pretty much my setup, it is not super hard to get working, it’s basically just copying and pasting the magic numbers they give you
Get something on .com or .net. Vanity tlds will piss off reputation services. And make sure you set up spf/dkim
Other reason is the renew fees for special tlds are so unpredictable. Com is surprisingly cheap to renew.
Dude’s having an interesting life trajectory
I just subscribbed to him
For the first time
Wasn’t interested in his old content but these new videos are fire and he has a very nice personality and overall amazing video quality. I inderstand why he was nmuber 1 for so many years
He has some more mature videos where he reviews books and tours around the world. Sometimes not so mature, he plays Minecraft or calls another YouTube channel bitch lasagna, and that can be fun too.
“calls another YouTube channel bitch lasagna” that was years ago right? These days he seems more calm and almost no toxicity whatsoever other than rarely saying shit, fuck, or generic swear word.
Pewdiepie, don’t go to the bridge!
Agreed, he is doing a lot better now.
I love this new arc of pewds, unimaginably based. I’m actually interested in watching his videos now after a looong time. The last three tech related ones were great.
Accurate once again
so much better
Correlation is not causation.
That boy doing so much work for privacy and linux communities. I love it!
Imagine if some big influencers like him switched to peertube, that would be quiet a thing indeed.
Even just mirroring.
Is there a tool already that makes it easy to upload to both? Idk, I haven’t uploaded a video since like the 10s
I think there’s an option to sync PeerTube channels with YouTube channels in the backend.
This is the first time I have seen someone reference the decade as the 10’s and I feel weird about it.
The 20’s last century seemed cooler.
It felt weirder to me a few years ago. But over time a just vaguely identifiable character for 2010 to 2019 has emerged when I think of that decade.
I think there are tools that do that, yeah
Any influencer that relies on YouTube ad money won’t make the full jump.
Other than that, they’ll very quickly find out that keeping a video focused service running and serving 10k views daily (300k/mon) is very expensive both in storage and bandwidth.
The big youtubers rely on sponsorship money way more than ad money. But sponsorship money is dependent on viewership numbers, so that is the main issue
actually for big youtubers, ad revenue from google isn’t all that huge afaik. i’m going only on the LMG breakdown they did, but they only get 26% of their revenue from adsense… that’s no tiny share of course, but i wouldn’t call it completely catastrophic to loose
you would have to factor in the amount of traffic that exposure from youtube gets them for those other monetary functions to get a real sense of how valuable it is to be or not be on that platform. Definitely feel like ethics should always come into play though and a lot of creators are branching out with hosting themselves or patreon/etc.
You can look any youtuber up on socialblade and see their earnings range. It’s not small which goes to show his diversified stuff must make a shitload.
They don’t make a large share of their income from yt ads I believe. Most is from sponsorships etc
Wait for it, I bet a whole bunch of people mentioned it in the comments of this one. That will probably be the topic of his next video. Although I’m hoping for stopkillinggames.com.
I think they are the only people able to do something like that. Hosting videos is expensive as … you know. But if someone can do it, its them.
It still baffles me why anyone likes him in the first place tbh
I can kinda see it, though he’s not my cup of tea. I like my videos a bit more essay-like and a bit more serious mode.
i get it, and don’t mind seeing him these days, but I don’t seek him out.
Same here. There were times where my eyes went up just hearing mentions of the guy, but nowadays, there are some videos I kinda enjoy watching (rare but yea)
How about LBRY? Do you think it’s a sane alternative to YT? I also think peertube is the true freedom, though, I was surprised how quick videos load on odysee
I though (not sure if I remember correctly) LBRY is basically dead after the lawsuits. The network was overtaken and is basically another corpo shait…
LBRY is cool but I’m honestly sketched out by the creators that currently exist there. It’s mostly weird libertarians and crypto bros plus random porn bots. Also between the first and most recent times I played with it they added a CDN that hosts all of the files and something like 99% of the data I downloaded while farting around on there came from that single official CDN, so very decentralized.
Peertube has actual large creators who aren’t weird conservative podcasters, and tons of different servers already which serve content, and great Mastadon integration which puts it in a much better spot for growth moving forwards than LBRY. You can literally watch peertube videos from Mastadon (Which has millions of active users including some celebrities and government officials) and comment on them from Mastadon, so there’s kinda already a userbase measured in millions depending on how you classify cross-fediverse users
mostly weird libertarians and crypto bros plus random porn bots
Maybe yeah. In fact, the only video I’ve ever watched on LBRY is from a YouTuber named Mental Outlaw
Can we stop with the narrative that corporations and celebrities are doing good? This guy is 110 Million people away from doing something for privacy and linux, once he makes 110 million and one person switch to linux or using a youtube alternative he will have done some work in the positive.
I mean… glass half full or half empty… You can appreciate how enthusiastic he was about it and how many people saw the video, or you can just complain… Btw. if he should do more, it will be the positive feedback he gets about it, not the negative one which is just demotivating…
Throwing it out there - I am tired of left always acting as if something done decade ago was still fresh. Pewds changed, he flipped his whole video formula, and even back then evil things he did were at least questionable. Let it go folks. You are doing nothing else than making yourself look like bitter old people.
Edit: I noticed it’s not obvious what I am talking about. Other comments. People constantly talking about how Pewds is a nazi.
Honestly, the only drama I’ve ever read about him was the n-word on the bridge situation. Now before I migrated to Lemmy I had a decade and half old account on Reddit that got n-word count botted, and even through all the heated debates & drunken shit posting, I never once dropped so much as the -a ending. But I grew up in an area of lower socioeconomic development, and I was the rare super pasty white boy who used it growing up because that was the common vernacular I heard every day. And I was only ever once confronted about it from someone I didn’t know. But as I started to grow, mature, and expand my social circle I learned how cringey it was (and I still look back on myself in a sense of embarrassment and disgust to this day). I’m just happy that this was early Myspace days, and there are no videos of it floating around.
Now I want to make it perfectly clear, I was not an Xbox live chat edgy shit head. This was the language I heard all around me growing up, so it was an honest adoption.
With that Ted talk out the way. I have only ever seen the bridge video of his, and a late night talk show (Colbert?) interview with him. That is it so I have absolutely no horse in the race. But I do understand how people can grow and change, and it sounds like from what everyone else is saying about him, that he has for the better.
He literally never did anything evil or bad. This is a myth that was entirely created by the far left, who falsely call everything fascist, despite never watching his content.
There is the expected amount of negativity in the comments, but also more positivity than I expected.
I watched the video. I am not really a fan of the style, I don’t agree with all of the content. But damn, a big influencer is using his reach to talk about retaking privacy and control in your online life. It can be such a difficult subject to pitch without sounding crazy. I think the video existing is great and pushes general awareness in the right direction.
Other than hearing his name, I’ve never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one’s life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we’ve all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe…I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.
He never was. When teenagers used to scream n-word for shit and giggles, he was monetarily incentivised to do stupid stunts. No belief behind, other than to have a laugh and jump in views. When he crossed the line and was critised for it, he backed off, apologised and learned from his mistakes.
But people love draging it out each and every single time he does anything, be it good or bad.
Hm, I’m not sure about that. There was a point in time where he was - even outside his videos - engaging with Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk. Echoing their philosophies and world views. The alt-right was using him and his platform to lure teenagers in. It’s possible that Felix did not even realize what was happening there. Or he was brainwashed himself for some time.
The important thing is that from 2019 onwards he clearly distanced himself from any of that.
… what?
they’re responding to other comments, like about Pewdiepie being a nazi.
… what?
So is he a nazi or not?
In short, a bunch of years ago he did some stunts for publicity that put him in a bad light. And don’t get me wrong, he deserved criticism back then. But it quickly became apparent that it wasn’t his view, but just that - a publicity stunt, something to drive algorithms etc, and he also apologised for it and what’s more important, didn’t make similiar shit afterwards.
So no, not a nazi. In the past you could call him edgy or something, alas even that doesn’t really fit as he didn’t do this all the time. But people saw he is popular and saw what he did and decided that no matter that these were one-offs, he must be a nazi, secretely harbor a shrinet o Hitler and all that.
Ok
Do you want to continue posturing and fishing for confirmation from other edgy teenage minds, or do you want the answer?
? I want the answer. I am not sure if you are saying he is a nazi or he is not.
I seriously doubt that anyone who asks that question doesn’t already have a foregone conclusion, but fine, I’ll indulge you.
Probably not. If he was, and had been hiding it his entire life, even in the era when he was the youtube star and had zero restraint, why would he slip up those few times, and especially such highly public ways?
He did and said some shit in his early 20s, and he deserved the criticism at the time, but those incidents weren’t repeated and weren’t part of a pattern. He wasn’t the paragon of virtue and maturity, but I’m willing to bet my left nut that neither are the people who are lining up to crucify him, and the only difference is that he had an audience. The people who aren’t willing to let go of their prejudices after a decade are equally as immature.
Not the person you’re replying to, but honestly I don’t pay attention to pop culture shit, so I’d ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it’s good to see info. Don’t assume people know things like that. Just assume they don’t and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂
In case you aren’t familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.
Yeah I remember when he was a big name doing that shit. Then he recently popped up talking linux. And in between it became a somewhat regular occurrence in my country for people to march with swastika flags. For all I knew it was edgy jokes from an era where fascism was still outside the Overton window, or he just became a low key supporter of modern fascism but without any stunts big enough to get noticed
The discourse goes to the same fucking place every time Felix is mentioned. People don’t deserve the benefit of doubt.
? Who is Felix? Is that pewdipie?
Did this go to the same place?
It’s kind of sad that you’re so terminally online that you think that everyone else must know who the hell this guy is. All I know about him is that he’s some YouTuber I have never watched any of his content nore have I really heard anything about any controversy.
I don’t even know this guy at all and what this is all about. That’s why I didn’t understand your post but it made me curious. Apparently this youtube guy is accused of being a Nazi because of things he said in his 20s which only came out after he became famous?
Leopards don’t change their spots.
People on Lemmy really just suck. So much snobby negativity
You should see reddit or any other mainstream social media for that matter, I assure you it gets much worse. In fact people on lemmy are mosltly normal.
I didn’t know he was a Nazi I just find him annoying.
Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.
It was incredibly easy to do and a refurbished pixel 8 is way cheaper than a new phone.
They are also way too small in terms of storage given that they don’t support external cards (Apple is similar). Google/Apple definitely want buyers to also buy their subscription storage services or pay the high premium for the next storage level.
I’m on an XR right now and it feels older, but still very much usable. I wish companies offered options to only get security patches instead of having to buy new phones every few years, that’s the 1 thing I hope Google keeps around and doesn’t walk back in the future.
They come in as high as 512gb and 1tb. I agree that they should have microSD slots, but the builtin storage options are sufficient.
Move to Lineage OS or Calyx OS
Don’t be fooled by the Graphene OS Mafia
What do the other two do better?
Lineage OS is a fairly generic ROM based on AOSP so it supports the most devices
Calyx OS is a privacy focused ROM without all the Graphene OS BS. The Graphene OS team and community are quite toxic and have a “my way or the highway” mentality. They don’t support MicroG and focus more on security than privacy and freedom.
@possiblylinux127 @Tattorack See also this table: https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/comparison-chart-of-grapheneos-divestos-and-calyxos/5618
A bit outdated since Divest is gone (😢), but a core difference is that Graphene prefers proprietary google stuff that is sandboxed and not given any privileges, while Calyx prefers free software versions that might have other issues (eg incomplete, or unsigned coming from third-party sources).
@possiblylinux127 @Tattorack I still stand by this other major difference, though: https://social.ridetrans.it/@Andres4NY/114671239145822442
Does YouTube vanced/revanced not work on Graphene?
Its decent except google amdoid aosp policy changes are screwing it over
Yeah, part of why I want to get one soon is to have a semi recent phone before they can’t do graphene properly anymore
Not being able to do graphene properly will hit everythibg if they screw up aosp i think
what’s stopping you? was the very first thing I did, don’t regret it for a second – https://ocv.me/b/img/IMG_20230811_121845_049.1ssy.jpg “i’m about to finish setting up my pixel alright” :p
The cost of buying a pixel is the only thing stopping me. I don’t have enough to replace my aging phone with much of anything, let alone a pixel.
You can save quite a bit by getting a refurbished Pixel - looks like the cheapest “Google certified” option (so it comes with a 1-year warranty) is a 6a for $250, which is nearly half off MSRP. I’ve been using my 6a since launch, so it’s been going for 3 years now and I have no desire to upgrade.
You can definitely get cheaper smartphones, but $250 for a 6a feels like a pretty big bang for your buck.
i got 8a for 300 thats prob one of the best deals
I got a pixel 9 for $240 CAD via carrier promotion in Canada.
I held out getting a new phone as long as I could and they offered a new pixel 9 for $5 per month for 24 months
Not to trade in after 24.
It’s mine. For 5$ a month.
When I received it I didn’t turn it on for a week.
Read as much as I could to decide that Google would only ever see the single boot to enable developer mode and enable OEM unlock to flash graphenos.
It seemed intimidating, but the process to install is very smooth.
I used Swappa to buy my last phone. Not certified, but much cheaper. The condition of phones is “graded,” and the sellers have an incentive to keep their reputation on the platform high. I had good luck, the one time I used it, at least.
When I can afford $250 I’ll keep it in mind. 🙂
in that case I would feel comfortable going with a refurb like theloweststone mentioned; pixels are the only(?) android devices which let you swap out the bootloader in a safe manner, so even a phone that’s been in shady hands should be fine if the boot hash matches. And if you know another person with graphene you can do the attestation just to be certain.
but since the future of GrapheneOS is slightly shaky at the moment, I’ve looking at alternatives for when my current device inevitably bites the dust – fairphone and pinephone both look like decent choices at first glance. It’s an unfortunate situation but just gotta roll with it!
I’m loving Pewdie’s redemption arc
i don’t want to watch pewdiepie, can someone explain what’s his beef here
